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G'Day Gents,http://www.nzherald.co.nz/index.cfm?...32997210.06.05 "Two people escaped serious injury when the Helithruster Gyrocopter they were in crashed near Feilding yesterday afternoon. Fire, police and ambulance officers rushed to the Tainui Aerodrome just after 1.30pm to find one person with moderate back injuries and another with minor injuries following the crash. They were taken to Palmerston North Hospital. " I had posted pic but thought it might be a copyright problem and deleted. The link pulls up the pic.Mitch.www.thebutterflyllc.com
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Looks as if it didnt come down real hard so I'm guessing it lost power on takeoff although that shouldnt have caused a crash in itself ! The news item certainly wasnt giving anything away !!Brian
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You´ll note the headline says Helicopter crash...Brainless, and obviously Brianless.. go help them please Brian, on second thoughts, don´t.Cheers,Nick.
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more detailed report here http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,3309587a11,00.htmlseems this newspaper came up with a different pic.Cheers,Phil YoungGunningbland NSW
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been told this link is not loading for some .Go to http://www.gyropilot.co.uk/and look for....Pilot has close call in gyrocopter, again (June 2005)Two people walked away from a Feilding gyrocopter crash yesterday when the trainee pilot apparently lost control of the aircraft shortly after take-off.
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Still doesnt say what actually happened though I guess it doesnt take much to work it out does it.Could it go like this, 70 year old trainee pulls the stick too far back on takeoff, doesnt release the control, depite Alf Crowe's desperate attempts to wrestle the controll away from the trainee the gyro gets to 100 feet, then comes back down for a ugly landing !! Times like this a jack handle would be handy....even if you didnt have time to use it before the crash, you could take to trainee afterwoulds !!!
My apolagies to anyone offended by my remarks !!Brian
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No need for apolagies Brain, I'v just cum back from giv'n ol mate some 'stick time' before he heads south for instruction, and before we took off the first time I showed him me thumb.He said "yep, I see it", then I assured him that if I said "mine" and he didn't let got o the stick, then that thumb would be deep inside his eye socket.[
]But there was no need, he had no trouble handl'n the RAF in rough air[}].[even landed a few o times with next to no help from me.Kinda makes me feel obsolete[xx(]].Ignorance is bliss............but only till you realise you were.You can always get the answer you want, if you ask enough experts.
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Birdy, you realized you now have given instructors a 'brutal weapon' which to use should trainee not let go of stick when informed ? Sure beats carrying a jack handle, it could become a lethal weapon in the event of a impact landing.....very pleased to hear that 'ol mate' could handle the RAF and still is able to see using both eyes !!!Brian
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Been emailed this explanation of the UFO incident. Student with 4000 hrs fixed wing and 2500 helicopter was supposed to get a rating in the machine last Thursday and then fly the UFO back to Auckland. No dual control, no intercom, Instructor had never flown the UFO from the right hand seat, and student did not get his hand onto the control until attempting to take off. Instructor did fly 3 circuits with him and did 3 hop/landings before putting student in the left hand seat. Got into the air, all over the place with student trying to work out the right place for the control column, full power, it looked like it bounced, then pitched up in the air, no forward speed to speak of into a torque roll. It wasn't pretty."Brian
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Funny how it is often assumed that high hour pilots from other disciplines can automatically fly our 'simple' machines with minimal training. This would seem to be a classical example of the 'technical cringe' we Gyronauts suffer at the hands of 'proper pilots'.Having moved across from GA to gyros I can confidently state that flying a gyro requires a separate set of skills, perhaps we could even claim that all those other hours should be regarded as training handicap.John EvansThink logically and do things well, think laterally and do things better.
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I'm with you there John, well said !!!Brian
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Robbie Glenn said it was nice teaching me because Í knew nothing about nothing". I think it was a compliment and I think he would be glad to know I still Know nothing about nothing. I still don't Know why they fly and don't really care. Don't understand planes either. I think recognition of impending danger is more important and an element of fear is healthy. Some people will play tennis all their life(50000hrs) and still not be able to take a point off Hewitt. And someone who drives a car for 50 years probably won't know how to start a B double, probably not even a Bobcat. Planes Choppers and Gyro's are assumed to be similar because they all use air as their medium. Think I'll ring Waddles and see if I can show him a thing or two in the Boeing. How hard could that be ? Ken
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Ken, No problem at all to take a point off Hewitt, but I'd need two days start on him.Should have worked out the double faults by then I hope.Ted
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