Dumb, Dumber and DUMBER!!!!!Saturday 18th June, 2005 at 1300 hrs, I drove through two fences at the Northern end of runway 32 at high speed with not enough rotor speed (blade flap)and forwarded somersaulted gyro. Requiring an extensive rebuild of the front end, rear keel and tail.This accident was the result of my stupidity and has nothing to do with the design or effectiveness of the Butterfly gyroplane OR gyroplanes generally.DUMB.1. I deviated from a flying schedule I had set myself for the next four days, which covered the period of the Opps Mgr comming to Tassie Mon 20th - Tues 21st, to meet the local crew and effect BFR's. After recieving a phone call Saturday morning at 1030 hrs, I attend at the airfield on short notice.DUMB.2. I took my kids with me and whilst they were locked in the club house and being look after by others, with strict instructions that my kids not be let out till I returned..,..the stress levels exceeded levels normally experienced when kids are not present.DUMB.3. Last time I flew, Butterfly flew fine, though I thought there might have been a little more stick shake than was acceptable. Because I had an old benson hub bar with irregular worn holes fron the cotton reels on sides of hub block, I had previously shimmed these to get correct tolerances. I decided to rotate the head 180 degrees.I also adjusted the trim string for some more nose up as hands free she gentle noses down and to the left.DUMBER.4. Whilst back tracking runway 32 I thought the blades had not come up to rrpms consistent with previous experience (as limited as that is 15 1/2 hrs solo). So when I turned around for take off on runway 32 slight N/W 10 to 15 knots, I placed her into the wind and spun up again. I held the disc at full back stick and used some thrust under brake to give additional airflow to help bring them up.I began to taxi, by the top of the first rise the blades were not comming up as I would have expected or liked.By the second rise in the runway again not quite cooking. This should have been my abort point. Another peek and the blades looked good to go.STUPID.5. During the last seconds of course I realised I was in trouble. I thought the nose had come up and ordinarily I would have been off and away. Whilst all this was going on I have strayed left of my track and clipped a tyre marker (not known till later observing the site). Later it was suggested this might have popped me into the air, however after going back and looking at the site, I found my wheel tracks and they continue on past the tyre.Approximately 4-5 mtrs before the first fence the wheel tracks disappear.I tried to horse the gyro over the fence. I felt the right to left knocking on the stick, indicative of flap as a result of not enough rrpm. The first fence flipped me sommersaulting forward. I thought I had then rolled left and then right comming to rest on the right side of gyro nose gear burried into the soft ground.It seems that the first full tumble resulted in a roll left landing on left mains, which has then bounced me back onto the right side of gyro comming to a sudden halt. The gyro travelled approx 26 mtrs from the point where the wheel tracks finished to final resting point.Classic case of series of poor judgements and decision processes.The high rider configuration of the gyro (Note I did not say CLT Hey John.)I believe with its tall front strut and instrument tube and pod, saved me from getting cut.The extremley strong front end keel configuration saved my legs and upper body from contacting the ground. I apolagise to every member for my stupidity and very poor decision making processes effected on this day.This accident in no way reflects on the general discussions about the safety of gyroplanes. THIS WAS PILOT ERROR.Gyroplanes are the safest aircraft to fly and operate, given rational, sensibile approaches to the sport, which I was sadly lacking on the day.Damage....Front end/rear keel/left push rod/tail/blades/prop/torque tube/jesus bolt/bearing/lower rear engine mount plate/head plates (maybe)instruments and instrument pod. I figure about $4000-$5000 will get me up again. Looks like I'm giving up smoking after 30 years. There was no visible damage to the mast or engine mount tube to mast arrangement. I have been told that there may well be a twist in the mast but the left head plate may have prevented the twist as it is slightly deformed. Yet to be determined.I am rebuilding and will always be involved with gyroplanes. Fortunately I will get to fly with some good blokes whilst in the US (PRA/OSHKOSH Conventions) and my Mate Nigel will take me up in his tandem trike periodically to satisfy my need for flight whilst I rebuild.This was a scary event and I truely hope that you new blokes comming in will see this accident for what it is. Major case of Pilot error. This will not happen to you if you take your time and slowly bring your blades up and make sensible decisions to abort at pre-determined points. Never assume your blades will do what you think they should, let your blades tell you when they are ready. Dont get ahead of what your aircraft is telling you.Fly SafeMitch.Image Insert: 75.97 KBImage Insert: 64.69 KBImage Insert: 72.76 KB www.thebutterflyllc.com
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Greg,I'm really sorry to hear about your accident, and I'm glad you're alright. Don't beat yourself up too much. You screwed up. We all do. You were unlucky enough to get bit. In any case, quitting smoking is always good. I know you'll have it flying again soon.
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Mitch, mitch, mitch man what a sad sight, but its only allu and it can be rebuilt, the main thing in all this is your still here to write about it, keep your chin up buddy..Remember -- A good friend will come and bail you out of jail...BUT a true friend will be sitting next to you saying, "Damn...that was fun!"Mark
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Mitch, Know what your thinking, I've been there, done that, to use a song lyics, "now pick yourself up, dust yourself down, and start all over again", there is only the hip pocket problem, the main issue is, you were not hurt, sorry I can't help in the re-build, a geographical problem, all the best.Pete Barsden
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quote:Originally posted by Greg MitchellDumb, Dumber and DUMBER!!!!! Looks like I'm giving up smoking after 30 years. I had to find a way to give up after a major health scare and several previous failed attempts. After talking to some medicos to learn how nicotine works on the brain, I devised a method that has worked successfully for at least eight people, including me, that have previously had no luck in quitting the old cancer sticks. It's pretty simple, costs nothing and leaves you in control of what's going on. I realise this is 'off-topic', but dead pilots don't fly so well. Contact me if you're interested.Regards,R.J.W.S.
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The good thing about hearing of other's misfortunes is when they are still around to tell us.It was avoidable so we can all learn from it.Sorry to hear about it Mitch.All the best with the rebuild.telfFlying - The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss. (Douglas Adams-The Hitch-Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy)
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Hey Mitch,There are those of us who have, and those who will. Now stop whipping yourself and plan for the rebuild.Thanks for the frank expose on the leadup. It should be a good lesson for all of us.For those who are interested, I happened to be in Tassie a couple of days after this accident and was able to inspect the wreckage first hand. Unfortunately, the inclement weather precluded an inspection of the witness marks on the ground. However, it was interesting to note that the aft keel broke immediately behind where an internal strengthening sleeve finished. As the mast also has this internal strengthening, it is possible that this precluded more severe damage to that component.It was also interesting to note that the triangular front section of the fueslage collapsed progressively which probably absorbed most of the forces that may have otherwise been transmitted to the mast and the pilot. The nosewheel is of the same design as that which broke causing my Monarch accident. However, in this case, the welding was done locally here in Oz, and it was the parent material that broke, not the weld. Congratulations to you Mitch for insisting that the original material be replaced with a thicker wall tube, and to the welder for the excellent job he did.Murray still wants a section of the busted blade for the Caboolture "Wall of Shame". It will compliment the two examples that I have contributed to the exhibition so far.See you at Mentone.Regards,Waddles.
Waddles
In aviation, the only stupid question is the one you don't ask!
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Now your one of us Mitch[V].[ reckon I know wot you were yell'n when the dust settled[]].But you know wot ya gota do when the nag throws you ay.[][Quietly wish'n you hadn't joined the club mate. Catch ya on the ph shortly.]Ignorance is bliss............but only till you realise you were.You can always get the answer you want, if you ask enough experts.
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Good to see your o.k Greg. I'm glad to see that you are modest enough to admit pilot error. Unfortunately people usually blame the machine and this gives gyro's their bad reputation. Hope you rebuild quickly and hope your not fazed. Thats why simple single seat gyro's are the best to learn in. Imagine the heartbreak if it had been a mega buck machine. Best wishes Ken
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Sorry to hear the news Greg, you have now joined the club !!Great to hear that you are unscathed, most important and good that you are able to give us a clear insight as to the events that took place and realize where the error occured. Image Insert: 31.49
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Greg, replace the mast even if it looks 100 % !!!Its a great testment to the solid and safe structure of a gyro in that the pilot is pretty well protected in most instances ! In my case, the nose wheel found a 'hole' in the 'strip' and cartwheeled right over at about 20 k's an hour. Stop kicking yourself Greg !Brian
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It takes a big man to look squarely at his mistakes and even more to admit them publicly. I hope someone can learn from it. That would make it a valuable contribution from you. 1. Avoid distractions/spectators 2. Go/No Go points for takeoff 3. Limit the number of changes/modifications at one time Thank You
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Greg,That you were able to post this is good, you walked away, so it was a good landing, for you, but not your gyro. I am not happy that you made this post, but happy you were able to make this post, it is always a sinking feeling when you see a new topic pop up in the 'Accidents' section.I don't know how many times you said 'sh*t, bugger and f**k' whilst roundly cursing yourself on the spot for misjudging the situation, but it is just a learning experience, a costly one of course, but like the other guys say, flying again is only a rebuild away.I just dread the moment of if and when my big stuff up comes along, I've got 35 odd hours up and the rule of thumb that I have with accidents is the square law one.. scarey,eh? How bad is it going to be? I know it is lurking out there waiting, only one way to find out - go fly - maybe it will never happen but I would never deny the opportunity is always there, Murphy loves me.I know I'd been beating you over the head about the mast, I am very pleased to see it held up despite my estimations that it wouldn't. The internal redundant member is obviously a great contributor to its strength, even with the drill hole. It would be interesting to see how much the stiffener at the engine mount helped. I'm sure a lot of people will be interested to see your usual high quality 'picture and tell' description of the post mortem, in the same vein as your stone mason's course.To both you and Brian, they're horrible and cruel photo's to look at, please don't make them again.Commiserating with you,Nick.
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Cheers Fella's,I'm annoyed to have added to the stats, that could mistakingly be perceived by some, as inherently a gyro problem, when clearly in the post mortem process PILOT ERROR is the only contributing factor at every level. My apolagies for that.I appreciate being 'welcomed to the club' of which, many of you know, I will be a life time member. There is a plan in place for the rebuild but I'm just going to enjoy my time in the USA, ten days visiting with Larry Neal, then PRA and Oshkosh Conventions, I'll get some time in the air over there and hopefully will be able to report back on a ride in the Golden Butterfly with Magnum GFLG. Getting married to the greatest Gal on the way home in Sydney. How bloody lucky am I!!!Now I have first hand experience of the forces involved in such accidents it sure does change the way one views and absorbs info from crash site images. It really is a great pleasure for me to be part of this membership and all that it affords.I'd just like to take this opportunity to thank Allan Wardill (Opps Mgr) for his visit to Tassie. Whilst initially I thought we would have a very poor turn out due to weather and time of Allan's visit, the following attended to meet with Allan.Boyd Sweeney, Geoff Blackberry, Nigel Barwick (Ole mate trike man) Phil Cox, Geoff and Keith Jamieson, Debbie and her friend. Airfield owners, Marcia and Jillian Hill also had the opportunity to meet with Allan, discuss my accident and develop a plan to enhance our club house comms, first aid and and reporting procedures. Thanks to all for making the effort. It was very worthwhile and informative to have Allan here for the 24 hr period. Particularly for me to be able to post mortem the accident wreakage and discuss the physics and dynamics involved in the accident itself. We all appreciated Allan's efforts in making himself available and giving freely of his time.Mitch.www.thebutterflyllc.com
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