Who owns the red pusher G703?

[quoj]

Just wondering if it"s a true CLT design?Is it from plans or is it a "slowly evolved over time from a Bensen-style chassis" machine that seems to be quite common?

[asra]

Photo?
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[quoj]

Oops!Sorry... I thought you guys would be best of mates, and would know off the top of your head!

[asra]

That machine was built by Sam Wilson from Victoria Sam L owned it for a while not sure who the new owner is now. I Am sure Sam L will jump in here.

[Greg Mitchell]

I thought Sam LaBruna built it.Dont know who has it now but that is an excellent design- CLT,

[admin]

Sam LaBruna, sold it to a gentleman by the name of "Eddie" who lives over packenham way in Vic.While I have not seen him for a while I know he still had it a few months agoRegards David

[asra]

G-703 was origionally built by SamW who sold it to John W who Sold it to SamL, who sold it to Eddie.I ended up modifying most of the machine, infact everything exept the mast, keel, controls, & seat tank was modified or changed. Yes machine was CLT and yes was a dream to fly. :"(

[quoj]

Well, my compliments on a damned fine machine, Sam!Lead by example, I say! ;D

[asra]

CLT, large airfoil shaped horizontal stabilizer,what the hell were you thinking Sam?

[Brian]

CLT, large airfoil shaped horizontal stabilizer,what the hell were you thinking Sam?Fantasyland Murray

[quoj]

So, is this aircraft a good example of a safe, sensible design, Mr President Murray?I"m surprised at how many HTL & Hstab-less designs there are out there!Doesn"t ASRA have some rules on mandatory safety requirements?

[admin]

Yes ASRA does, if you look in the main section of the ASRA website you will find the Requirements for Gyroplanes both basic and Compliant machinesClick HERE for the correct pageand Click HERE for the other documentationIf you are unsure of anything in the construction standards etc then you should call a TA (also on the main section of the site) and discuss it with them as you must have a TA sign off on a Gyro that you build.Regards Webmaster

[admin]

I"m surprised at how many HTL & Hstab-less designs there are out there! Doesn"t ASRA have some rules on mandatory safety requirements? I don"t know of many Gyros that don"t have some sort of Hstab around today in AUS, nearly all have some type on them. HTL machine that currently exist are entittled to contiune to be HTL, but the rules for new machines have changed, if you use those links I posted you can have some light reading about what is required now.I should also point out that G-703 has a thrust line that allows it to be called a "CLT machine" it might not look like it, but it is.I have seen the photos of the machine when it was tested for this and the centre of gravity they certainly make for very good to call it a CLT machine.Sam who I know is both very though and an extremely good pilot, he is very good instructor which is the reason why he sold it in the first place, he replaced it with the "Kruza" 2 place machine he now uses for training and flying, he spends a large amount of his spare time training people now.ASRA also wanted for the last re-registration a number of extra tests ad photos to allow ASRA to be able to conduct a survey of what type of machines there are and where the thrust lines are on the "fleet" as it stands at the moment. This was preempted by ASRA because of one specific accident, when CASA asked ASRA why certain accidents were or had occurred ASRA was able to say this is what we are doing and this is why.No one suggests that HTL or flying without a Hstab is the best thing to do but if they are currently registered and the person has owned the machine for a longtime and is aware of the limitations of the machine and has flown it safely for many years then what should ASRA do?

[quoj]

Thanks, Webby.That"s a good an thorough answer!