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Hi all,Need some info on how to set up the Tall Tail.Distance from prop.?Is there a 3 degree forward offset to the prop required?.
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The optimum distance from the prop is 125 MM. More is not necessarily better with full span rudders.The original designers specified between 1 and 3 degrees negative on the HS. If you have CLT then put the HS neutral. The higher the thrustline compared to COG the more negative angle on the HS.
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Actually, whilst on this subject, I have a question.You see, I was at an airfield on Saturday where a gyro pilot with a CLT Rod Torr gyro was there.He didn"t have a tall tail and I mentioned it to him.He put forward the proposition that tall tails aren"t as effective during engine out.I was planning on putting a tall tail on my gyro.What is the debate on this one?True? False? Partly true but with some caveats?
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Bullsh!t. Usually you hear that argument from someone who has never flown a gyro with one.
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Fair enough.As usual, it"s best to hear as many views as possible and then choose the one that sits best.I personally like the idea of a tall tail.
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Fair enough.As usual, it"s best to hear as many views as possible and then choose the one that sits best.I personally like the idea of a tall tail.Solves torque roll problems and looks better too.Graeme.
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Actually, whilst on this subject, I have a question.You see, I was at an airfield on Saturday where a gyro pilot with a CLT Rod Torr gyro was there.He didn"t have a tall tail and I mentioned it to him.He put forward the proposition that tall tails aren"t as effective during engine out.I was planning on putting a tall tail on my gyro.What is the debate on this one?True? False? Partly true but with some caveats?Is this reasoning because a tall tail machine is usually shorter compared to the longer length tail boom on a half tail?A tall tail is normally about twice the area compared to a half tail, and mostly have a decent set of horizontal stabs attached.Graeme.
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Is this reasoning because a tall tail machine is usually shorter compared to the longer length tail boom on a half tail?Yes, I think his reasoning did have something to do with a tall tail being backed up right behind the prop, as opposed to a short tail being further back and therefore not obscured by engine etc, whilst being able to make use of the slipstream.Without firsthand experience I had no way to confirm or refute his claim (that he said he"d heard from someone else!) so that"s why I thought I"d put it to you guys here.As I said, I"d much prefer a tall tail! (And yes, I think they look better too!)
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I agree with Muzz. However, a tall tail need not be short coupled. Check out the distance offset on the Golden Butterfly and Turbo Golden.Allows for plenty of authority engine on or off.Fairly std for the Golden to continue flying TIF"s when the other gyros are packing up due to strong winds at Mentone. Thats a fact!Mitch.
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Hi all,Slightly modified,A pic of mine thus far,What do you think Graeme ?
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Well Mitch, I can see why your Golden Butterfly isn"t affected by wind - It hasn"t got a main rotor attached!My daughter"s 3-wheeled dinky isn"t affected by wind either! :PJust jokes! Looks like a fine aircraft!
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There"s no room left for the rotor!!
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The first tall tail I flew gave me a fright as I"m used to bringing the power up slowly. After nose lift I still had no rudder control and the craft turned and rolled down into the road storm drain, and I knew she"d roll over if I thottled off" so I hit full power and chopped up scrub for a while, then woke up at 300ft. (must of had an O.B.E.) I like the way they pack into hangers though. ( I quickly learnt to bring the throttle up a bit faster and all was well.
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Okay, that"s sort of what I was getting at.Can someone explain why things happened the way they did in the above example by Max?Thanks.
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