Energy

[RossM]

Hi Mike
Conservation law has blown that all away.
Does not matter what Hz the power is, it is still energy that was already there.
You cannot make energy from leading edge and take to trailing edge of retreating blade, You would loose energy to friction in the ducting (or build up resistance in front of the advancing blade).
Physics is not a subject I understood at school.

[blakemorem]

Hey Max Back on energy. Sorry i know its random but i found a UNI professor Talking about it and they have observed something that doesn't follow the conservation law and yet to be understood.The conservation law states that you cannot create nor destroy energy it simply changes from one state to another. OK fair enough that also covers the 100% efficiency law also as there is a small loss like heat or friction, ok also fair enough that's why perpetual motion is not possible.except earth of cause. BUT they have observed a model that defies the law and have measured what seems a very slight gain. The inventor well...he dead. So what did he discover. We all know how to make hydrogen using electrolysis. Discovered long time ago. What this fella was doing was injecting a 20KHZ frequency across the electrodes and producing abundant hydrogen far more than direct current. WOW ...so why aren't we using it... oh that's why it's TOOO efficient can't and well... look what happened to the inventor. The phenomenon is called ZERO POINT ENERGY. It has been observed and cant be explained.Tesla first observed it and wanted to continue this research but it blew up his lab and no one wanted to support his work and money flow dried up. I was thinking about your rotor as well i was wondering if you equalized the leading edge of the advancing blade with the back edge of the retreating blade with a series of perpetrated holes connected by a fixed tube, channel, or duct what would that do for the teeter imbalance or efficiency of the rotor may also help VNE pending on the positioning of the port holes. I'm also thinking compressed air jets would help get rotor up to speed. I'm not suggesting experimental application on your flying machine just ideas. A big servo motor at the hub would work wonders too like the ones you get out of front loader washing machines you would need to build a driver circuit for it but not too hard they are very efficient compact and powerful much less weight than conventional pre rotators too. My brain hurts now i need rest.LOL
Mike.

[mad max]

Yes Tony, one must be totally vigilant when flying close to another rotorcraft. The fixed wingers generally get another chance. The early days of RAF in Canada was a good example. Two RAF's touched during a filming opp. I believe. No survivors through memory.

[tonydenton]

I know one bloke who couldn't stick to a flight plan let alone spell it. struth we were flying formation a few times by the second time I specifically noticed his rotars didn't listen to what his mouth had said to me and he was all over the place by the third time he was telling us what we would all do and I just said , nah !!!! I'm out, not going , do what you want,
don't regret that decision one bit.

[mad max]

One thing I learnt very Quickly was only formation fly beside someone with a 'male brain'. The female species of all animals are more inteligent than the male however they pay a price in that they generally don't know their left from their right. So if they call on the radio "turning left" and your on their right look out. And believe me there are one in five males out there with a female brain! In Vietnam the yanks used to fly Iroquoi at night in formation with rotors tucked together (at different heights) Each pilot would line up the other guys dash light with another part of the chopper!

[mad max]

I'm sure I'll be in a 'chatty' mood at the wedding in Byron Bay with all the free grog. Bruce Layt went to the Kunannara fly-in I think. He apparently stopped on the way in Tennant Creek with gyro on truck and a cowboy wandered up and told him he was my 'last student' before my retirement from instructing. As it turned out I could not pass him due I think to a shoulder injury. Instructing in a high performance mustering craft is not glamorise. The student can easily kill you or worse!

[tonydenton]

hello max, not sure if you know of BRUCE LAYT, [ sometimes called BUDDA , cause he looks like one. ps don't ever go flying with him into right hand turns .he can be a nut lob ] but any way he had knick named me " stories " cause he reckons I always tell them , but seriously YOU BEAT ME HANDS DOWN MATE. .
i'll tell my daughter to say hello to you. look around she will be the tall one there. but that's another story.

[mad max]

Just read your article Mike (think I called you Dan before) Interesting. Sadly extra innovation seems to come when humans are threatened. What about you tune your brain into blade tip pre rotator rockets for final stage rotation? I have to 'beat the system' here. Need quicker take offs. As soon as I even 'think' of cutting down a tree there's a knock on the door! Going to fly (when the rain stops) 80 km away to my brothers farm and sit on a stool in a padock and play the button acordian to his cows while being filmed. If the results are interesting we shall put it on u tube.

[mad max]

Yes Tony. Small world. Zandy is marrying a good bloke. Loves surfing. He was here at another wedding and I offered him a gyro ride but he was short of time. (Would of required a ferry boat ride to my paradice peninsular ect.) Zandy has flown with me I reacon when she was around 9yrs. old. My youngest passenger was 4 and oldest 94. OK, I'll go and read Dans story. Sure is tricky navigating through this forum!

[tonydenton]

I was trying to pull back from chattering a bit max , I was starting to feel like a tall version of MAD MUZZ. had a couple of so called mates [ well I've actually only got 2 . ] tell me I was on there way too much. but I figured that if anyone was talking then someone would talk back , but alas it doesn't seem to be like that anymore or maybe it's just me being TALL MUZZ. .
my daughter said she is going to ZANDE'S wedding this year are you coming down for it ????

[mad max]

G/Day Tony, Good to hear a bit of chatter again. We haven't given up looking for a property over your way. Sport aviators get treated like second class citizens over here. We do good deeds like croc. reporting and are not allowed to use indigenous airstrips. Was in the WA wheat fields recently and came across small town airstrips with 'welcome' signs and no fences. I'll read your posting Dan when I get some spare time. A busy business being retired and loving your sport/hobby!

[tonydenton]

then both come up. . I can't be the only one that happens too. well I could actually . if you just say it's because of the N.B.N. then I understand completely.

[tonydenton]

and it said error then. see what happens to this post and if it posts the message from me that this message is relating too.,

[tonydenton]

why does it double up or sometimes say 'error" Dan, a bit frustrating some times. g'day again Blake, "long time no hear".
you could possibly stir up max but he said recently he doesn't like long posts, so we have to wait and see what happens.

[RickE]

Way over my head Mike, but welcome back anyway🤔