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  • birdy
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    Was thinkn the same meself. :

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  • WEST OZ FLYER
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    I have a couple of bridges for sale......Miles

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  • MilesW
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    Anecdotally, we are able to say that gyro hours in this country are understated by something like 120,000 to 140,000 hours annually because contract mustering is a mostly clandestine business.I have a couple of bridges for sale......Miles

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  • gyroo
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    Stand By RossM -I"ll email the registrar and documents manager. I do know that the declared hours of the ASRA membership are relatively modest compared to what we know based on the types of sources I mentioned in my previous post dealing with mustering hours.Mark R

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  • RossM
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    To whoever is in the know, How many hours are logged in Australia each year?

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  • t-bird
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    Hi
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  • birdy
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    TBird, your confusen me.You kept bangn on bout 20.000 hours and no carcasses in SA, then you say 20,000 hours is missrepresenting coz the mustern blokes dont tell.Exuse me for thinkn they was the same hours.Mark, if the mustern pilots were respected for the ligitamate work they do, instead of the "authorities" sayn they are just dangerous cowboys and dont pay casa any privilage money, maybe more would surface.

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  • birdy
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    Heard it was 45 out your way yesterday?45 wut?[i]Why did you muster in Feral and not the RAF?

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  • Brian
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    Or that 20 000 hours is not that great and the only reason we don"t see those statistics here is that very few of the muster pilots are submitting hours.???how many use rafs for mustern?Never heard of anyone.Yep, I know of 2 RAF"s back years ago but not today. One bloke said he had found 10,000 different ways to sit in one & the other learnt a lot in a very shot space of time & got out of the raf into a single place gyro

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  • gyroo
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    T-Bird you"ve really got the bull"s eye with this one.

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  • t-bird
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    Birdy it is not just about Raf hours but hours in any gyro.The accident rate will be very high if not all the hours are accounted for.Say

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  • gyroo
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    Good morning Birdy -Heard it was 45 out your way yesterday?Newer readers may not know that you"ve had both a RAF as well as your famous "Feral" at the same time. Why did you muster in Feral and not the RAF?

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  • birdy
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    Or that 20 000 hours is not that great and the only reason we don"t see those statistics here is that very few of the muster pilots are submitting hours.???how many use rafs for mustern?Never heard of anyone.

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  • gyroo
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    Yes, yes -Perhaps I should have added that once a rotor goes into reduced-g, the auto-rotative effect diminishes proportionately and the rotor can slow disastrously within seconds. It may not necessarily instantly slow, however, because the reduction of auto-rotative effect is accompanied by reduced induced drag as well, leaving the rotor"s considerable rotational inertia only battling parasite drag. On the other hand, we also now know of instances where a rotor has gone from 320-340 rpm to less than 90 in a second and a half (Nowra, February 2014), but in that case the rotor experienced top down inflow that braked the rotation.The disaster scenarios I have described in excruciating millisecond-by-millisecond detail in my previous lengthy sermon are FORTUNATELY extremely rare. They don"t happen regularly here or anywhere else in the world - yet they occasionally DO happen. And the important bit is we now know why they happen. This simple statement couldn"t reliably be made 25 to 30 years ago. Such a detailed explanation couldn"t be reliably made even 15 years ago.It"s probably time to stop emphasizing the disaster scenarios for a while and to acknowledge that many tens of thousands of hours of pleasurable and trouble free gyro hours are enjoyed here, and in South Africa, and everywhere else in the world gyros can operate.Aside from the formal training we all have, our gyro-learning experiences continue on for as long as we fly. That"s why we all instinctively and routinely use the descriptions of "inexperienced pilot" or "experienced pilot", with the assumption being that perhaps the experienced pilot will have scared him or herself enough times early on to learn that it"s best to avoid things that he or she may have done when first "let loose".It would be good if you could explain more about the South African training regimes, methodology and training philosophies, and more importantly what will happen to people if they operate outside the official regime. One recurring phenomenon that ASRA has is that quite a few people join ASRA, then learn to fly, then lapse their membership. Anecdotally, we know that they"re out there flying away but they"re no longer "legal" because a pre-requisite of legal gyro flying in Australia is ASRA membership.Is this phenomenon also encountered in South Africa?I"ll finish up by saying that many tens of thousands of extremely pleasurable gyro flying hours are experienced in Australia and elsewhere every year. If people think I"m all doom and gloom, then that"s just not the case.BUT - I reckon that there has to be someone resident on this forum who"s got the inclination to explain the intricacies, and as Tech Mgr it"s logical that I be the one. I think it helps that I"ve got half a bookcase full of rotary wing textbooks and can actually penetrate at least part-way into the labyrinth of calculations contained in them, and that I have previously flown planes and choppers as well as gyros.

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  • t-bird
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    Hi MarkI can add that in a overcontrolling situation you will loose 100 RPM a second. I agree also that overcontroling will happen much quicker with a RAF. You would then expect to see RAF pilots dropping out of the sky like flies.Why aren"t they ?Does it have to do with the demographics of the pilots ? It looks like they attract a lot of farmers that are older. Could be that they are risk more adverse than younger pilots.Training at an international airport ? Everything has to be to the book and pilots are more dissiplined.The instructors. These guys really know the machine and give the student the ability to fly in a wider envelope. How big a role does the hours training play.The machines. The machines are all the same, Mark mentioned how smooth the rotors were.Or that 20 000 hours is not that great and the only reason we don"t see those statistics here is that very few of the muster pilots are submitting hours.

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