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    From the horse's mouth:The plan was to takeoff from Cooma and track 10 mls and orbit around Berridale. Then, track 20 mls to Cooma township and overfly the Polo Flat Airfield before returning to the Cooma airfield. The pre-flight briefing included the usual stay within the law with regard to populous areas, fly responsibibly etc, etc. My takeoff was marred by the fact that my helmet had not been properly secured. The clip buckle had not been properly aligned, and didn't catch properly. No problems, a quick circuit to fix the error, and off again. I sighted a gyro in front of me, and adjusted power to stay in close proximity. This required significantly more power than normal cruise. Like 400 RPM. Orbit of Berridale complete, I proceeded in close proximity with the other gyro to Polo Flat, and did a couple of orbits for the photographers that we knew would be there.Depart for Cooma Airfield, fat dumb and happy. Check the watch for an ETA, and figure that with the increased RPM for the majority of the flight, it could be a little bit tight. (Where's the diesel when you need it?} Decision: Land somewhere whilst the engine is still operating, or push it. Bad decision - push it. To top it all off, a radio check revealed that the batteries were flat. Bugger.I tracked via suitable paddocks close to the road, so that if the noise ceased, there was not a major decision to be made. The unexpected expected happened, and when the noise quit, I looked around to see who could be blamed. Alas. T'was me alone. Bugger.The successful landing was witnessed by Greg Carr who was driving from town to the strip at the time. He galloped across the paddock to make sure all was OK. Murray Barker had also witnessed the incident from the airstrip, and turned up shortly afterwards. So, back to the strip, politely decline the offers of diesel and humble pie, grab some unleaded, set up Murray and son Mitchell to mark the bad ditch for the takeoff, and arrive at the field 30 minutes late. S**t, can Murray move when there is a gyro bearing down on him. Can't remember if he dived or not!!The worst of it all was having to look into mirror, and dress down the d***head that was looking at me.The bottom line?: Failure to positively establish fuel consumption on a new machine. Unplanned additional flying at abnormally high power settings. A degree of the "she's right mate" syndrome.Summary***head.Regards,Waddles.
    Waddles

    In aviation, the only stupid question is the one you don't ask!

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    You arent the first nor will you be the last.Your saving grace is that you planned for the unexpected ie by tracking via suitable paddocks, then executing a successfull forced landing.A very valuable lesson for all newbies out there is to be had !!You never know how far you can go, till you get there !

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    • #3
      Alan,You forgot to mention the broken swage.M Barker

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      • #4
        Mr Richard Cranium please accept my application for ground crew/refueller at the next nat's [hidden agender want to get up close to that monarch]nil remuneration reqired.Sounds like you had a gooood time ,why did murray duck??? low flying butterflys in that area,anyhow added a bit more spice to the mix and goes to show you never stop leaning,wooden spoons 1 all safe flying allan ken

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        • #5
          Good on Ya Waddles, how even the mighty are flawed..Third time lucky?

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          • #6
            ..Wats the goss abowt one of those thingos[] snapin the front nosewheel bizo, and then ova we go[][?].....RussRDC

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            • #7
              I suppose about once in 20,000 hrs is not too bad. I had a friend who ran out several times - was always trying to squeeze that extra few minutes out of a tank. Not a recommended practise as he found out because a few factors can shorten your average considerably (icing, extra rpm's).Tim McClure

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              • #8
                See'n me ol mate Waddls waddl'n round on the deck, apparently outa juice, made me a little nervous, consider'n we had the same size tanks, but then I rmembered, I'm not a power happy 747 jocky.[][]And if that was the only "incident" to be "reported" for the weekend with 20 odd gyros buzz'n bout then I'd call it a very sucsesful show.[just as well there was no mulga about................. ay Wal.]Ignorance is bliss............but only till you realise you were.Ingratitude stinks.......be generous carefully.

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                • #9
                  Geez, Allan, I hope that CASA don't read your report on the forum,and charge you with the numerous ANO and CAR rules that he broke with your excurion to the ground devoid of fuel after poor flight planning!!!!!!!!!!! LOL.[] I would hate the same **** to happen to some one else!!!!!as has happened to me for very similar infringements of the CAR's and ANO's.Geez I only landed with an operational machine on service roads a couple of times to fuel up.While you are in the open heart mode, Allan, could you please explain how you bingled your Monarch as you told me a few days ago that you had, and why the Larrye Neal company has had to accept responsibility?I look forward to educational responses.Aussie Paul. Still behind the [8]....[]www.firebirdgyros.com

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                  • #10
                    Try'n to make someone else look as silly as you Paul isn't go'n to help anyone, least of all you.Ignorance is bliss............but only till you realise you were.Ingratitude stinks.......be generous carefully.

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                    • #11
                      Paul you are amazeing, as I was there when the front strut broke on Alans gyro so I will comment.The front wheel strut broke on the butterfly while landing.It was found during inspection that the strut was poorly welded.I made up a new one and the gyro was fixed in a day.This was not one of Mitches parts but an original from the US.Mitch supply's an updated version and may go to the new style that I made. The ASRA president was informed that day.The OZ Agent was informed an hour after the event.Alan even informed his company (QANTAS) as is required by all pilots involved in even minor mishaps in other aircraft.Its called professionalism,look it up in the dictionary Paul.The manufacturer offered to help replace parts because he is a good bloke.Alan blamed himself for the not so gentle landing,no one else.Something for you to learn here Paul.M Barker

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                      • #12
                        It is not a case of trying birdy, all you hypocrites do it. Oh, I see, it is alright for some people to break the rules but not others??? Especially the ones that stand up and be counted against the people in authority who have double standards with flying and enforcing the rules, and who still insist on incorrect ASRA exam paper answers. I have tried to help, but, sh**t what would I know?????Does it boil down to who is "dobbed on"? It seems so.Very Aussie birdy, thanks for pointing that out, you are a mind of unsearched info with your keyboard!!!!!!!!!!!Sorry about the tantrum, but when the most powerfull person in ASRA breaks the rules consistantly during the few years that he has been in the industry,(5) I just lost control of my typing fingers, yes both of them!!!! Sorry, I may be crucified for this but it is an ASRA forum and nobody complained when my penalty was posted, not even me!!!Aussie Paul. [8]www.firebirdgyros.com

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                          It is not a case of trying birdy, all you hypocrites do it. Oh, I see, it is alright for some people to break the rules but not others??? Especially the ones that stand up and be counted against the people in authority who have double standards with flying and enforcing the rules, and who still insist on incorrect ASRA exam paper answers. I have tried to help, but, sh**t what would I know?????Does it boil down to who is "dobbed on"? It seems so.Very Aussie birdy, thanks for pointing that out, you are a mind of unsearched info with your keyboard!!!!!!!!!!!Sorry about the tantrum, but when the most powerfull person in ASRA breaks the rules consistantly during the few years that he has been in the industry,(5) I just lost control of my typing fingers, yes both of them!!!! Sorry, I may be crucified for this but it is an ASRA forum and nobody complained when my penalty was posted, not even me!!!Aussie Paul. [8]www.firebirdgyros.com

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                          • #14
                            deleted due to an accidental double up with posting.[V][V][]

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                            • #15
                              Hey Paul, good too see you still "PARTICIPATE" on the forum just watched a video my missus brought back from Sydney (Avalon 2003).Saw you flying G400 a yellow RAF I thought the hydbrid was red!ByeCrachetester

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