Magni M 24 "Orion" Gyroplanes

[bones]

Sam tried ringing twice today but you no answer, so this is what my whole beef with this is.You said there is no need to use rudder, there is in circumstances, ie until the rudders get enough air to work, crosswinds(dont know about down there but it never seems to be under bloody 15-20kts here) , have you tried to hanging off the prop next to no a/s (p factor)ect ect, once the machine gets off the ground yes no rudders needed then cause you can let it windvane ect, i do the same as you did in your video, with Beau yesterday, as soon as it got over 100"(which i make them hold it straight up the strip) he took his feet off the peddles and the string went straight up the screen, all circuit until 100" on landing when he kicked it back straight again(with the strip)i got no problems with anyone saying once flyingspeed is achieved the rudders do what they are spossed to, cause that what they are spossed to do.Edit; deleted most of the other posts out this thread as asked.

[asra]

Sam,Very impressive, all of the factory 2 seat gyro"s that I have flown so far ( yet to fly the Xenon & Orion(will fly the M24 next month)not one would meet the stability and balance that the Kruza displayed in the video. Outstanding result and a credit to you and the team at Kruza!.AdrianThanks AdrianI must point out I take no credit for the design of the KRUZA tail as this is 100% GTG"s. I just know it works realy well as it should. Whenever you finally fly these 2 designs, I would love to here your unbiast feedback regarding stability. This is not to bad mouth other designs, but rather to learn and apply successfull stability principles allowing us to make and fly the best gyroplanes available enywhere.Cheers SamL..................

[aussie_paul]

Great stuff Sam.Aussie Paul.

[IanM]

Hi Sam,The Kruza looks like a great machine and seems to fly that way too.

[asra]

Hi Sam,The Kruza looks like a great machine and seems to fly that way too.

[aussie_paul]

Hi IanRotors are Patroney 29 foot twisted tapperd (positive washout on tips).KRUZA has no static port so yes it does over read by about 6 knots. The difference you observed between the GPS & ASI is ground speed verses airspeed. The Kruza boys are working on a new rotor system which they hope to showcase at NATFLY 2011. This will lower the rotor loading somewhat and assist with rotor vibrations.Regards SamL................That"s good to hear Sam, as I mentioned to you after I flew your Kruza I felt that the disc loading was too high. Your Kruza felt to me that 30" or 31" diameter would have been more suited to the weight it was carrying.Aussie Paul.