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[asra]

Im not going to beat on him any more because very soon he will be a dead horse, or else a horses cousin![]Flying the right side up in Canada

[asra]

BobI see time to pack up your bat and ball and go to find yet another gyro forum to get advice from.The bottom line is, you have spent something like three years stuffing arround in the garage tobuild something that may never fly. It's time to listen to what people have been saying to you, and go and get lessons and get someone to inspect, set up and test fly your machine.If your serious about flying, this is what you will do. If you had followed the correct training path you could have spent 100 plus hours flying by now, instead you have spent hundreds of hours building and rebuilding.What is your aim in this? If you want a life long project, your current attitude will ensure your project and your life will finish at the same time.Take this advice, or take up a ground based hobby.I was going to say sorry for being so blunt, but I think you need to have someone to shake your tree.RossB

[asra]

To all,The attitude to flying expressed by Bob.K is one of the reasons I gave gyro flying away some 8 years ago. I went off to do GA and have taken it as far as SE-IFR ratings.I cannot believe that there are still people sufficiently arrogant and incompetent to believe that they are able to fly *SAFELY* (ie. with respect towards other people, property and law) without any form of formal instruction.I for one am glad that Bob.K is living within the high water mark of good ol' US of A. At least he won't present a safety issue to innocent bystanders here in Oz. No doubt he will appear in a future NTSB report and once again re-affirm to the general public that gyroplanes are dangerous (not) whereas in fact - it is the (non)pilots who are dangerous. Fortunately, in this case, Mr Bob.K is neither a pilot nor ever likely to be with his current attitude to flight. One good drop from 500 feet or above will alleviate us all from the worry of M Bob.K ever passing overhead.My 2 cents worth,Rgds,PeterPS: I'd also take a fair old guess this particular owners gyro ain't much of an advert for safe engineering either .. )

[asra]

Peterb: Ok you stated your belief, good for you , Now shut up about it will ya and let it die ! this is an old thred and as such should have been gone long ago , but jurks like you just won't let it die ! I'm glad you got away from gyros your straight laced attitude and the belief of there is only one way to fly is plane stupid and you call me arragont , your the ass here not me , so crawl back under the rock where you came from , I don't have to take your **** and I won't so there ! ... Jurk ! Bob......and good bye ! to this thred !" Momm'a alwayse told me , Son the impossable is only a little bit Harder... and ya know I do believe She was RIGHT ! "

[asra]

Oh Dear Bob, yet another forum where you have managed to convince everyone that you are a bloody fool. When is it going to sink in son, "Get some training with an instructor". If you want to kill yourself, feel free, but don't do it in a gyro. As I've tried to explain to you before, any accident you have will have ramifications for our sport. Insurance companies, will add you to their database, so that they can either jack up enormous premiums or decline the rest of us. Authorities such as the FAA in your case or the CASA in ours will be forced to introduce stricter legislation under the excuse that we are unable to safely govern ourselves because of people with your stupid attitude. You are, as I've said to you before, a statistic waiting for the ink to dry. Bob, you've admitted that you have a negative income, and I suspect that in itself is the real reason why you don't undertake training with an instructor. You claim its 600 miles to the nearest instructor over your way. Mate 600 miles isn't that far when its your life at stake. What makes you think the instructor may not meet you somewhere in the middle? I'll bet you haven't even asked. Anyway you look at this Bob, the message is the same, you can't afford to fly, if you can't afford some instruction. You've rolled a machine over already, but you only thnk you know the reason why. An instructor could have saved you and your machine.You are a liability to the sport Bob, not just to yourself but to those around you indirectly and to to us as well. Why don't you take your pig headed attitude somewhere else and perhaps take up knitting.Ted

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Ted, Hear,Hear, it could not have been said better, this man has showen us all his intellect level, his level of abusiveness, and by showing us his prop making, his level of expertise in Aircraft building .I wonder if the reason we have the legacy of this man is because his fellow countrymen have drawn the curtains on him? So let's hope that in the words of Gen Macarther, like an old soldier, he does not die, but just fades away.Pete Barsden

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"I'm glad you got away from gyros your straight laced attitude and the belief of there is only one way to fly "Ask anyone one this forum Bob, and they'll tell you I'm anything BUT streight laced.But I did have the common sence to seek instruction, [ even tho it was from an instructer who'd let his ticket laps, and was over 500 miles from ere] coz i figured my neck was worth more n any expence to try to do it properly.I'v withheld from answer'n your posts bout instruction coz the more people try to be helpful, the more you seem to resist.I can only advise you to do it properly, but if you insist on be'n independant and try'n to reinvent the wheel, do it sumwhere else, coz we don't want to here the inevetable.[ another bingle]BTW, there IS only one way to fly................ but there's a million ways to get hurt. Ignorance is bliss............but only till you realise you were.You can always get the answer you want, if you ask enough experts.

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The HS is doing very little at 35 mph. It starts to work around 50 mph. That's not the problem. Your lift off air speed is probably more like 45 mph. 35 mph air speed seems way too slow to lift off.Ken Rehler, New Braunfels, Texas USA - www.rvk-architects.com/ken/gyro/