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  • #31
    I always remember the comments of Kerry Packer some time after they resuscitated him.There is no noise, no f0u4en light, no tunnel - nuthin.So do whatever you f0uken like in this life. Regards....Chook.

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    • #32
      Funny you mention him.I know a few who have "been there n back".The ones who saw stuff, were the ones ina hospitol, full of gawd knows wot drugs.The ones like Packer, say the same as he did, nuthn but black.Hell, i was straped to a bed once and drip fed the mofeen crap, and i could rite a book bout the wierd stuff that went through me head.Never get me back ina hopital while i can still swing um.

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      • #33
        I think the Packer quote was - I’ve been to the other side, and let me tell you, there’s f*cking nothing there. And, from my own experience, I can tell you he wasn"t telling fibs. Miles

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        • #34
          I bet if there had been something there.... he would have bought it

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          • #35
            My hypothesis if you can call it that is; Based on Darwin"s evolutionary law that is: We did not evolve as we changed our environment to suit. Now we may have lost some hair and our brains may have developed with collective intelligence. But also I"m thinking creation is from a different maker other than God like an intelligent life that visited like the Niphilim is a good hint. I know evolutionist and theologists will hate this but the best evolutionist have come up with for the missing link is the monkey Eva found in the ancient swamp in Germany with the Five digit hand and feet. I"ll leave theology alone. To think with a universe the size of 78 billion light years there isn"t other life out there with far more advanced intelligence. It is quite unlikely looking at the probability. There life may not even be carbon based it could be silicon, why not. We could just be a giant science experiment who knows. As far as particle physics, dimensions of time and space,gravity and laws of relativity there are very smart people working on it so lets see what they come up with. Some things aren"t how it looks though, here"s an example. When you fill a glass of water it appears full right? Well actually it"s 99% empty because the molecules of H2O are 99% space. Yeah I"ve never looked at my beer the same after hearing that and no wonder I drink so much of it. Mike

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            • #36
              I think religion is the remanence of lost science from our pre-history. You are not in the universe, you are the universe, an intrinsic part of it. Ultimately, you are not a person, but a focal point where the universe is becoming conscious of itself. (Echart Tolle) If thats too heavy for you cultural conditioned people and think I"m "crazy" then that"s a compliment.

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              • #37
                Consider yourself complimented Max

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                • #38
                  Religion, as with myths ( same thing) are the product of brain washn.Sumone starts a yarn to scare and ultimately control the gullible masses.Sumtimes for the better, but usualy only for the yarn starters gain.Science is normaly based on reality. Not a yarn.Science has to be prooved to be correct, religion only needs a blind faith.Correct means its plausable to anyone who can reason.Faith means buggered if i know, it just is, coz he said so.Smoke enuf dope and read enuf philosophy and your mind will have you believe wotever tickles your fancy.Watch, listen, hear and feel, and your in contact with the world your but a miniscule part of.And with the glass be,n 99% empty, it depends on your perspective.If you wanted a drink, its full, of wot you need, in the real world.If you wanted 100%, youd never be able to drink that much.Your body needed 1% water with 99% space, not 100% water.

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                  • #39
                    Religion was all about controlling the gullible masses as you say Birdie, people would often commit crimes and atrocities and if no one was looking, they got away with it.... religion came along and the people who fell for it would be too scared to commit the crime because "the mighty one" was watching.... whoever one believed was the mighty one at the time.... In our time, religion has basically fizzled out, so they have replaced it with DNA.... and cctv. Now people fear committing crimes because whilst everyone else is looking the wrong way, cctv, DNA (and other forensic evidence) very often can catch the baddy out.... That is why the rich and powerful decided to write the "inadmissible evidence" safety net into the laws, so only the poor can get hauled over the coals and the rich can keep doing what they are doing, getting richer... :Although, these may soon become unnecessary too, people seem to always be posting self incriminating evidence of bad or wrong stuff they do on "social media"

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                    • #40
                      Come down out of the trees you bunch of hairy materialist. There"s much more to reality than what you can see, hear smell and touch. There are other dimensions that your monkey instincts are unaware of ;D

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                      • #41
                        How do you know I am hairy? was that you perving in the window the other night?

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                        • #42
                          Yuuuk, Muz I can guarantee you mate no body is gunna be looking thru your window,especially while you spank the monkey. Now back to Science. I recall in my Biology text book if you put some basic organic compounds in a vessel and subjected it to conditions like the Jurassic period you would get some type of single cell phyto organic compounds. I need to get the book out, as this gentlemen was the beginning of life on this planet, A very significant discovery. Also do you ever recall the Layland brothers when they were out back and they saw that carving on a rock of the little space man even had little air tanks. I was gob smacked when i saw that about 30 years ago and no body seemed to give a toss. If that little carving was authentic what more do you need. Mike.

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                          • #43
                            Blake! How did you know I have a monkey?

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                            • #44
                              Oh I forgot to mention Max about dimensions. Time and matter always move forward in state. Stephen Hawkins demonstrated this simply. The example of matter was a coffee cup falling off the table, it smashes and never forms its previous state. I will eventually breaks down into the basic elements it was made from. And time well the clock or shadow never reverses. Now apparently the black hole is the loop where all matter eventually goes through and breaks down to the basic atoms protons neutrons and electrons and recycled back into the universe. And around it goes. Always moving forward in state. If you could work out the reverse model you could get back to the beginning but the problem is the laws of physics break down as you get closer to that point. Its called the bowl effect. Dimensions makes my brain hurt. Although it"s got a reasonable argument. If you look at how many dimensions are possible it"s mind blowing stuff. As well as matter you also have antimatter and it"s real. In fact the model of infinite antimatter creates energy... BANG. Well lets see what they come up with but i know they are close. Look at that particle accelerator in Switzerland they are smashing atoms together at light speed now and discovering about 9 pods of the atom and yes that stringy energy stuff. So Max yes i agree there is more than just the material atom. Mike.

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                              • #45
                                Yeh Muz that"s those ancient stone patterns in south Africa UBUTU will put you an the right path very interesting stuff if they are right, its about high intensity sound energy and the planet resonates as well, Tesla was working on this too apparently. I have thought about dimensions for a long time and I have just as crazy model as the others. Hard to explain but here goes. You have infinity of forward dimension like time and matter but you have inverse infinity 1/x of the same and it applies to everything even your conscious existence you have infinity thought and memory. Like a video camera pointed at a mirror its infinity of the same image. I told you i was Strange this my quite beer time i just sit and think about this stuff like forward matter and reverse anti matter. Time has infinity both ways from the present right down to the micro second. I call it the INVERSE LAW. Now wheres my Nobel Prize so i can think about something else for a change.

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