Flying

[birdy]

Gees,shiney painted machines[], must be all the fly'n round in that acid rain that keeps them look'n so spic.[}]Gotta give you blokes credit,you take alot of pride in keep'n your machines in a very tidey state.[^]Ignorance is bliss............but only till you realise you were.

[Brian]

You can tell they aint working machines by that gloss !! Just thought 25's would have spun a bit faster than 330 revs.You never know how far you can go, till you get there !

[asra]

Brian When that pix was taken they were climbing out at 500fpm and I was taking photos, here's another one to show you are right.Image Insert: 46.78

[birdy]

It's good to see your temp isn't git'n too high now Dewie,[]now I'm not try'n to be a pain in the ass,but I hope it gits a bit higher than its show'n on the gauge in the last pic.If its constantly run'n under operat'n temp [bout 80/85c]you'll have some other problems.[xx(]BTW,wot are those 'dots' on the ground???Ignorance is bliss............but only till you realise you were.

[asra]

Yep I had to fit a new thermostat after the new gauge to get it up to 80C,but all is well now. The dods are wind break fences to protect the sheep from the cold S/West winds in winter. We are on the edge of Victorias western plains and it blows hard and cold at times.Dewie

[Mark Horan]

Brian,I have 24 ft henley smith blades on my machine and they spin at around 400 most of the time except when I speed em up in a tight turn.Not much pitch but they spinup fast and smooth on my rough strip.Mark.

[Brian]

Yes Mark, the smaller blades spin up very quickly, had a set on my old open framed gyro and they spun up fast and down even quicker . Never had a rotor tacho on that gyro.The 27 ft 6 in Patroney blades tick over at 320 most of the time versus 350 for the 27 ft Ricks Rotors [extruded alloys.]You never know how far you can go, till you get there !

[asra]

Went for a fly up to the Meredith music festival then down the Leigh river and back home, about a one hour trip . Realy nice at 9.30 am.Image Insert: 28.43 KBImage Insert: 21.5 KBDewie

[NiqueNaque]

Dewie,Stoooopppp..... I'm getting jealous...Nick.

[asra]

[]Strange paddock shapes[b] Image Insert: 43.11

[asra]

Great Dewie, you have made me a little homesick!!!!![]I arrived today back down in Margaret River in WA, and spent 20 mins solo and over an hour training in the magnificent Magni. []Now!!!!! here is a company that has got it right!!!!!![^][^]Not a mustering machine though Birdy.I have only flown one other gyro that comes close to the stability of a Magni, and it is not what I flew to Alice Springs!!!![]Aussie Paul.[]www.firebirdgyros.com

[birdy]

"Not a mustering machine though Birdy."Why not???Ignorance is bliss............but only till you realise you were.

[asra]

Birdy, too much weight to throw around, the controls are quite dampened, and the rotor system, including the head and controls is "speed to trim spring setting sensitive". In other words, to fly at a speed other than the trimmed speed requires quite a control force. Great for touring, but maybe[?] not suitable for abrupt speed changes as with your mustering requirements. You would be adjusting trim spring pressure all the time!!![] A superb touring gyroplane though.[^] I have never flown blades so smooth and stable on a stiff mast.[^] I have taken some video of the stick whilst flying which I will post when I get home.Aussie Paul. []www.firebirdgyros.com

[asra]

You are doing well whilst away from home Paul. Making all of these controbutions instead of getting away form it all. On a lap top?

[Tim]

Dewie, form what Paul just said it would appear that your machine has a problem with the trim spring rate. I suppose that if you always fly at the same airspeed then it would be of little concern. The offset gimbal head bias spring neutralises the lifting force that the rotor imparts on the torque tube in the same way that spring suspension on a car "neutralises" the ride height of the car. Gust forces acting on the rotor are balanced out by the spring as long as the joystick is held lightly and allowed to "float" with the forces. The car suspension irons out the bumps in the same manner. If the spring rate is so far out then the offset gimbal head may not be doing its job of making the aircraft more stable. An incorrect spring rate could in fact make the aircraft unstable when flown outside its trimmed airspeed.That is just my initial thoughts, the trim changes required for different airspeeds could also be as a result of many other factors, including balance, stabilizer and drag.Tim McClure