Training Syllabus

[Tim]

Good pick up disco. I would think just a typo from Davidbuzz.

[Disco]

Stick position at takeoff is relative to groundspeed. ... at least the way I fly...

[MadMuz]

Max, like I said before.... just pop off a spare vacuum port on your carby and attach a small hose to your radiator hose " doodle adaptor" it will make every flight a delight.... (whether you actually get airborne or not)

[mad max]

To be honest Tony I was quite shocked at the huge size of hose I had to find. I had No idea how wide it was. Hadn"t looked at it for yrs. Only handled it. ;D

[Russell]

Rick ol son........they are trying to kill you.

[tonydenton]

sounds good max, how about a picture, don"t forget to reduce the size or it won"t load . .

[RickE]

Current syllabus is near on perfect, and always seeking better from management team. Nearly every member here has had to consult with their MOF ( wives ) to use funds to get into gyros. Those that choose to advance stage...ie, instructing, are putting at risk that large joint expense. To suggest any instructor that try"s to cover his ar$e financially, and fairly, does not have the students interest at heart....is simply stupid. In the main, all instructors risk their life"s assets, that"s right.....the bleedin lot. If....god forbid, you and your instructor have a serious mishap, your students family may well engage a legal representative to BLAME

[mad max]

Sorry Russ, I"d rather just plod along at 60 kts and a smooth ride at 15LPH and be able to slip down almost anywhere and have a pee. Enjoy the journey. Same with life. Mind you I am an old fart with an indurance of about 30 mins. between pees after my prostate opp. Luckly they didn"t de-sex me by mistake. Actually I"ve made a Mk 2 inflight urinator which consists of a bent piece of ford radiator hose pushed into a V8 juice bottle. works great on the ground. About to soon flight test it. Have to look down for a while in order to do the insertion so should stay above 1000 ft when inserting. Maybe I can introduce a new course to my training syllabus.

[Russell]

No probs mate, all"s cool.Honestly.....training a newbie to see solo, is a real buzz. The look of excitement / achievement etc in their eyes, is priceless.

[WEST OZ FLYER]

That is a fair call Russ. Sorry I have to work on getting what is in my head to the computer screen better.My argument with regards to "students interests" and "in it for the money" relates to more the time it takes for the student to become competent at particular skills. I hear it time and time again ( not just gyros ) that a student is stuck on landings for example. These instructors are happy to sit there and keep the machine upright not guiding the student rather let them continue over and over making the same mistakes burning up time = $$$. > ??? :"( My idea of an instructor is to teach, not sit their watching the same mistakes when they could be easily corrected. There is a minimum number of hours to be flown in training, this is what the hourly rate to investment ratio should be worked out on. The average person should be able to be competent at these hours, some take a few more hours to refine or feel comfortable with their skills. I have no problem with what ever hourly rate they want to charge. If they have invested in a gyro and want to charge $200+/hr, that is their right as they have invested the money into it. And yes I will choose that advanced stage, I just have to get some ducks in row first.

[Russell]

Current syllabus is near on perfect, and always seeking better from management team. Nearly every member here has had to consult with their MOF ( wives ) to use funds to get into gyros. Those that choose to advance stage...ie, instructing, are putting at risk that large joint expense. To suggest any instructor that try"s to cover his ar$e financially, and fairly, does not have the students interest at heart....is simply stupid. In the main, all instructors risk their life"s assets, that"s right.....the bleedin lot. If....god forbid, you and your instructor have a serious mishap, your students family may well engage a legal representative to BLAME

[WEST OZ FLYER]

Lots of " instruction " going on here, follow it up guys and get endorsed. Common grype out there, is too few instructors available around the ridges.....so some folks say. .?Infact.......guys are stepping away from it, for various reasons. 2 things guaranteed......you just cover costs, and you need lots of patience.....( newbies are doing their level best to roll your machine into a ball, and saying sorry mate ) insurance.........forget that, if....you get cover, and that"s a big if, the premiums are crippling.It"s apparent that old school pilots generally prefer open framed machines, but the new age guys like the cabined turn key club....fair enough. ( I like them both .....horses for courses, open for yank and bank, cabined for trips ) so actually you all need 2 gyros.

[Russell]

Lots of " instruction " going on here, follow it up guys and get endorsed. Common grype out there, is too few instructors available around the ridges.....so some folks say. .?Infact.......guys are stepping away from it, for various reasons. 2 things guaranteed......you just cover costs, and you need lots of patience.....( newbies are doing their level best to roll your machine into a ball, and saying sorry mate ) insurance.........forget that, if....you get cover, and that"s a big if, the premiums are crippling.It"s apparent that old school pilots generally prefer open framed machines, but the new age guys like the cabined turn key club....fair enough. ( I like them both .....horses for courses, open for yank and bank, cabined for trips ) so actually you all need 2 gyros.

[MadMuz]

I tend to agree Buzz, with mine with 23 gerrys, once I hand spun them and started to taxy, if the stick is right back, once they got up about half speed, the nose wheel would start to lift, so the stick would have to be allowed forward a bit until they were really wizzing and ready to fly.... I am amazed that people often say "stick right back and leave it there" and stuff like that, to me it would be better to say "stick back as far as necessary" ..... sure at first start of taxying you might have the stick well back, possibly full back, but it wont necessarily stay right back.... it depends on wind, taxy speed, type of rotor blades....That"s why I say people need to learn how to read the blades and what they are needing.... to learn the idiosyncrasies of the rotors they are running and treat them accordingly.These comments are regarding more basic, old school gyros, not modern factory machines with POH to follow.

[davidbuzz]

Stick position at takeoff is relative to groundspeed. ... at least the way I fly...