Thats right Frankie.The new system as I understand, strongly recommends pilots not to overfly, and to join at 500 ft, (ultralights with speeds below 55kt) either 45 degrees down wind or midfield crosswind, or straight in approach.You can overfly if you realy feel you must, but not over a CTAF(R),without a radio.Due to our generally slower speeds, new circuit hight, and smaller tighter circuit, as required by the new regulations, overflying should'nt be as greater a requirement.Sounds good!!!!!Regards Sam...[]
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Paul,Current circuit operations requires a fly over and at least 3 legs of the circuit are flown; unless the pilot has advise of his/her intention for a straight in approached no less 15Nm from the areodrome and only after obtaining the aerodrome conditions via radio from a competent person on the ground or by another aircraft which has landed or taken off from that aerodrome and contra operations are not undertaken (that is you can not use the opposite runway used by a proceeding aircraft ie Proceeding aircraft take off using RW16 you can not land on RW34 when on a 15Nm straight in approach). Straight in approaches are for MBZ's Unless otherwise stated by the areodrome operator ( maybe restricted due to terrain or high volume of traffic)A competent person is one who has an understanding of meteorology conditions and licenced to use radio But my understanding things are going to change in the near future - best to get along to a briefing night on the new airspace requirementsCheersFrankiejAlways remember you're unique, just like everyone else
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SAM,You are right will make things alot better for those of us who have no other choice but to mix it up with FW some of these guys are flat out finding the aerodrome let alone a Gryo at 500' blending in with the terrain - next will be required to be paint our gyros in fluro clolours but overall I think this is a sensible approach, the more serparation we have the better I would feel buzzing around an areodrome just for the previledge of landing on the black stuff.CheersFrankiejAlways remember you're unique, just like everyone else
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Bloody ell!!!!I'm glad I don't fly bout in the same area as you mob with all the confusion.[could you imagine the ballsup if I turned up??]Ignorance is bliss............but only till you realise you were.You can always get the answer you want, if you ask enough experts.
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Just to correct a part of a statement by FrankieJ "I think you will find that 1500' AGL is to over fly (view windsock) then must be at 1000' to join circuit on down wind leg can be at 1500'AGL on upwind then desend to 1000' on down wind leg unless established at 15Nm on straight in approach"One needs to be at the circuit height on the live side(downwind)of the circuit. If you need to descend to the circuit height it needs to be done on the dead side, if you're not on a straight in approach.Ted
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I have seen aircraft land at M tafs without any radio calls and at all heights. Guess it depends if you are putting someone else at risk.Theres someone making a clear strobe thats visible for a good distance and the unit is light and small.Brian
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Ted,You are exactly right, it was the way I must have worded it, what I is trying to point out was you can be 1500' AGL on the dead side of the circuit (Upwind) desend to 1000'AGL when turning Crosswind (dead side)and be established at 1000'AGL by the time you have turned onto downwind. My apology if I gave people the wrong impression.CheersFrankiejAlways remember you're unique, just like everyone else
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