G"day Paul, Have re-read your original post (and the replies of others), and a couple of questions come to mind. The first question is why are you making this suggestion? The obvious answer is "because the ASRA board has imploded/exploded or some other sort of "ploded". Whatever it is, it apparently no longer fuctions. After a while I got to pondering why this would be so (the board ceasing to function, that is). There are two reasons that I can think of.[*]The first one is that some-one spilled beer on some-one elses boot in the pub (or walked dogs poop on their carpet) or some other thing so that there has been a personality conflict. I doubt that 8 or 9 people that have the outward appearance of being very intelligent (and that have a couple of centuries of aviation experience between them) would allow a simple personality thing to bring down the board or the association.[*][/list][*]That brings me to the second reason (in my mind) why the board is now in tatters. That is, that there are deep and philosphical differences between a couple of factions within the board. That is, there are possibly 2 groups within the board that want to take the gyro movement in different directions. Personalities may have been a catalyst for the resulting destruction of the board, but there must have been an underlying difference in ideals in the first instance.[*][/list]
And if we add the Bruty/RAA suggestion, it is a possible 3 directions that we (the members) must contemplate.I think most members of the gyro movement are a little bit like the proverbial "mayor of Hiroshima" at present (What the F#$@k was that????). But now it is gradually dawning on us that something big has happened, but we"re not quite sure what it all means.That brings me back to the point of the post. You have put forward a suggestion for the members to consider. That is, we join forces with RAA (AUF) for our future flying. That is a fine suggestion, but at present (in my mind, anyway) it is a little bit like a crayfish. All shell, and not much guts. To properly consider such a suggestion, we need to consider exactly what that will mean to people like myself who are current members of ASRA. Some of the questions in my mind are things such as:- Cost (not a big deal if its a small difference, but if its $2K p.a. instead of $200, then it might be)- Will there be a "sunset" on our present quals/conditions, or do we have to upgrade?- Do we all have to have a 4 stroke Rotax and drink chardonnay?- etc, etc, etc (You get the drift)Perhaps you might do a little research and report back here on what it means to me (and presumably there are others interested in at least considering the idea) if we decided to join RAA. Undoubtedly, you will have contacts within CASA and RAA that can give you some idea of the implications/benefits/changes of such a move.While we are at it, I doubt that all of the previous board members (and those that are considering standing for election this time) have been sitting on their hands. Perhaps some of them might put a few words together to tell us where they see ASRA going into the future (provided they see themselves as part of ASRA"s future, of course). I really do belief that it is time for candidates to declare "party lines", rather than us electing a heap of individuals with differing agendas, and expecting it to work. It is time that candidates agreed on policy and run on a "ticket". It"s how every civilized country in the world elects their government. We need to be able to gauge the different options before we can decide which way to go. So, can some-one oblige?I never jumped out of a leaking boat unless the water was coming in faster than I could bail it out. Therefore Paul, I need to be convinced to jump. I look forward to the findings of your research on this matter. Don"t go overboard. Just "in principle" stuff (in the first instance). If we like the scene that you paint (and the new ASRA scene is not stacking up), then we may ask for a bit more detail.Cheers
And if we add the Bruty/RAA suggestion, it is a possible 3 directions that we (the members) must contemplate.I think most members of the gyro movement are a little bit like the proverbial "mayor of Hiroshima" at present (What the F#$@k was that????). But now it is gradually dawning on us that something big has happened, but we"re not quite sure what it all means.That brings me back to the point of the post. You have put forward a suggestion for the members to consider. That is, we join forces with RAA (AUF) for our future flying. That is a fine suggestion, but at present (in my mind, anyway) it is a little bit like a crayfish. All shell, and not much guts. To properly consider such a suggestion, we need to consider exactly what that will mean to people like myself who are current members of ASRA. Some of the questions in my mind are things such as:- Cost (not a big deal if its a small difference, but if its $2K p.a. instead of $200, then it might be)- Will there be a "sunset" on our present quals/conditions, or do we have to upgrade?- Do we all have to have a 4 stroke Rotax and drink chardonnay?- etc, etc, etc (You get the drift)Perhaps you might do a little research and report back here on what it means to me (and presumably there are others interested in at least considering the idea) if we decided to join RAA. Undoubtedly, you will have contacts within CASA and RAA that can give you some idea of the implications/benefits/changes of such a move.While we are at it, I doubt that all of the previous board members (and those that are considering standing for election this time) have been sitting on their hands. Perhaps some of them might put a few words together to tell us where they see ASRA going into the future (provided they see themselves as part of ASRA"s future, of course). I really do belief that it is time for candidates to declare "party lines", rather than us electing a heap of individuals with differing agendas, and expecting it to work. It is time that candidates agreed on policy and run on a "ticket". It"s how every civilized country in the world elects their government. We need to be able to gauge the different options before we can decide which way to go. So, can some-one oblige?I never jumped out of a leaking boat unless the water was coming in faster than I could bail it out. Therefore Paul, I need to be convinced to jump. I look forward to the findings of your research on this matter. Don"t go overboard. Just "in principle" stuff (in the first instance). If we like the scene that you paint (and the new ASRA scene is not stacking up), then we may ask for a bit more detail.Cheers
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