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  • Good in theory... but not so good in practice?

    Found some concept art.I"m guessing it looks *sort* of okay from an aesthetic point of view, but I"d be interested in hearing what the seasoned professionals have to say about the practical ramifications of such a design?

  • #2
    I dont see why it wouldn"t work. If it hangs in the 8-12 deg nose down I reckon it will fly, just have to retrofit some kind of instrument panel.

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    • #3
      Can you say Faceplant!

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      • #4
        Ah... okay.... I"m .. ah... I"m not sure what you"re meaning by "faceplant" but... well, okay..

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        • #5
          Faceplant = **** over ***...bury your face in the dirt etc etc

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          • #6
            Yeah, I got that part. I just wasn"t sure how it pertained to this design.

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            • #7
              Having built a few weird designs over the years I may qualify to comment.The tail looks a bit close and a bit small to me. Fix that and if the COG/TL is in the right place I see no problems.(Apart from no flight instruments)

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              • #8
                Thanks Murray.Yes, I"ve seen some of your "weird designs", and I"m sure that you don"t end up as the Head Cheese without some hefty experience (... maybe a TIF or two??

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                • #9
                  "Head Cheese", "Hefty experience","Word would definitely carry some clout" : Have you got the right bloke?

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                  • #10
                    Come on, Murray.Don"t be modest!

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                    • #11
                      The simplicity of the design is commendable.
                      Attached Files

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                      • #12
                        Having those 2 large wheels up front would act like large fins. Worst case, it may want to swap ends. LOL

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                        • #13
                          Looks good to me, just needs an engineer to check the statics and dynamics. The mast does look awfully short to me though, from a stability perspective.

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                          • #14
                            Hi Quoj,The pictures are certainly a snappy piece of concept art. I am not on the forum much, probably spending far too much of my spare time concerned with gyroplane thrust lines etc as I wade through the hundreds of fleet survey responses.My "informed instinctive reaction" to the side-view image is that it"s a superficially appealling design, although I would consider that the front wheels should be reduced in diameter by 1/3 and replaced with spoked wheels and the spats should be abandoned. The engine and propeller axis needs to be raised spinner-upward by 10 to 15 degrees; the vertical stabilizer needs to be increased in height by 70% and the taper of the rudder to be not so severe; the horizontal stabilizer needs to be relocated so as to be level with 1/3 prop blade span down from the prop hub; the snake-tongue tail skids eliminated and replaced by a wheel; the mast needs to be raised a little, those strange triangular elbow-knocking fairings need to be eliminated; some form of minimal instrument pod needs to be fitted; and, a single safety skid would need to be fitted to the front under the rudder pedals to safeguard against a nose-over - and, of course - some form of throttle quadrant needs to be fitted!With all that said, after all these mods it might become practical.Cheers,Mark ReganMelbourneASRA Board MemberASRA Technical Manager

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