media fact or set up.

[mad max]

No, Mike, I was a refugee from NZ IN 73. I haven"t seen a UFO but have met so many stable people who have. The knockers say space is too large and they would take 1000 yrs. to travel from Sirius to here Blar-blar-blar, but it wasn"t long ago most people thought we would die if we travelled faster that a galloping horse. We will work out how to bend space and time and shorten the route. Even the old testament has Ezekial explaining God landing by the Chesbar river spitting fire and he explained the craft down to the pilots seat and the wheel nuts. Personally I think the old Testaman God and one of the Hindu Gods were Aliens from a planet in the Sirius binary star group. (As you"ve guessed I find this subject fascinating)

[birdy]

Geez, hope my bakky aint spiked too.

[blakemorem]

OOOH...Max the dilemma you speak of i also share your quest for truth and believe there an enormous amount of information our little earthling brains can"t comprehend just yet. The partial physicist"s are working on Quantum string theory and may indeed rewrite the conventional laws. There is a gifted young feller called Jake Barnett that is now working on 5th dimensions of relativity and good old Stephen Hawkins was working on 3 dimensional. To add to your dilemma I"ll drop some more in your lap, ANUNNAKI,the secrets of VEDA,The Giants Genesis-6,NEPHILIM or GIBBORIM BagaVita,Bhagavib Gita and Virmana,Gog Magong.North American Sharmins The Greeks refered to them as the Titans As i have said before there is a lot of ancient writings Hindu,Tibet, Mayan, even the Bible 2 Samuel 21:20,Isiah 13:3-7, Numbers 13:32-23 Were their descendants from heaven or were there visitors from Orion constellation. Oh and don"t forget the Ancient Sumarions, that will keep you reading for a while. I think some astronauts have written about their own experiences in space too. Here"s one book Author George Lenord, some body else is on the moon. I don"t quite recall astronauts accounts like Otto Binder, Maurice Chatelain, They may have been told to shut up. But some of these fellers are or was privilege to highly classified information. MJ-12 And have had eye witness accounts. They are probably satisfied with what they have seen. I probably read too much. Hard to discredit Galileo too. Any way lots more to read.Mike.

[blakemorem]

Nah...Nah really Birdy... I had a dream and I was touched by God or Molested by an Alien, doesn"t matter as it was just a dream and i have been given powers beyond your earthling brain can comprehend and you shall not test your faith you should follow me faithfully without question....faithfully. Or I"ll condemn you the life of a prostitute and not fed. If this is too difficult try Christianity.

[blakemorem]

Birdy, Just send me fifty bucks and I"ll prey for you...all of scruffy heathens...now be off with you as I"m busy trying to turn a stone into bottle of whiskey...not bloody working for some reason... you might have to up that donation and I"ll see if i can get you into the promised land...Hey that"s cheaper than... Well you get what you pay for put it that way.

[blakemorem]

OK clearly this messiah thing aint working so back to work. Hey Max there is a lot you, we don"t know about and sometimes the Government thinks it"s best that way. TRUTH EMBARGO What I"m trying to say is that a lot of people have disappeared from knowing too much. I don"t know if you know what I"m trying to say but i don"t feel real comfortable talking about this stuff on a public domain but from what i know it appears the more you know the more you are watched. it appears i"m being paranoid but the info is there if you want it just keep it to yourself. or if you are brave i"ll keep going with this topic as a lot of info is publicly accessible it"s just scary stuff.Mike.

[mad max]

Very wise words Mike but sometimes it"s better to live one day as a Tiger than a thousand days as a sheep :"(

[Tim]

I"m with Birdy on this one. I think I"ll just sit on the other side of the fence (called reality) and Stoke up my peace pipe.I"ll see if I can dream up a few more parables to keep the conspiracy faithful amused.

[tonydenton]

I"ve seen a meteorite [ in daylight hours ] is the best I can come up with, but do believe that there are others in others galaxy"s far far away. seriously we can"t be the only ones. I do believe there would be cover ups too. hell yeah. my grand father had always said he had seen the MIN MIN LIGHT too. so maybe it"s close to running in the family. I don"t really care if he wasn"t a scruncher thou.

[mad max]

All the answers are out there for those who wish to seek it. For those who wish to remain sheep and graze on bull s@#t I wish you all the luck.

[blakemorem]

Max I will give you a few hints. Obama has mentioned a few times now on national TV, well global actually "A NEW WORLD ORDER" he"s actually dropped it in your lap. We are very sheepish in a way we would not believe because it"s sooo different to life as we know it. But there is something going on if you"re interested i"ll try to explain what i know it sounds so out there though but it"s what I"ve read and it sort of makes sense and fits. Einstein said the intuitive thinker makes a sacred gift,for intuition is a product of everything you know. The rational thinker makes a faithful servant.

[blakemorem]

Hey Tony, I think America is gunna have trouble trying to promote a ethical or moral standard with Russia,after what has happened in places like Iraq and Afghanistan. You only need to watch a few youtube videos and you get the idea. And why did the Yanks use Uranium 238 projectiles in Baghdad and Fallujah and elsewhere it"s really hard to clean up too. There is a 60% deformity in children now and that stuff is around for thousands of years. I saw Yankee kids with guns(soldiers)

[tonydenton]

hey mike, we got a bit off track , some funny , some not so funny and yes some sickening. I agree that there is 2 faced with lots of countries. originally I was asking about how was it that some one out of 2 million people could be watching 2 cars about to be blown up by a stray rocket falling to earth as was shown on the news . " it was

[blakemorem]

Yeah I"m of same opinion as we are not going to solve the problems of the world and there is too much to think about,leave that to the authorities. I try to avoid conflict in my life and that"s probably a result of my up bringing and i exercise reasoning as much as possible. I"m thinking of a future back in the bush when the opportunity comes my way and get as far away from the endless bickering like media current affairs and neighbors deputes it"s like get a life,i cant watch TV it irritates the hell out of me i just go read something just so much crap. I have few friends but i know i can trust them as they have integrity and speak truthfully. One of my mates has a disability but never complains no matter how hard it gets or suffering, I would give him the shirt off my back. We are a lucky country and we are luckier we have Gyros, It"s good to sore with eagles and leave all our worries below. Max France and Brittan have released all their files on UFO and there is also heaps of stuff on Black Opps, I read the book on Nicola Tesler and he was onto some thing and lost he"s money and no more funding maybe the Gov"t said enough as he blew up a power station towards the end.Otto Schneider was across the Philadelphia experiment and some of Tesler work was used i believe.This stuff is classified never to be released. Otto"s son Phil Schneider was also privileged to a lot of classified stuff and his friend Ron Rummel They both disappeared Video docs on youtube you tell me. There are high ranking military men talking now so it"s out there. But what they are alluding to is not above it"s underground. What do you think.

[mad max]

Our friend Frederick Valentich took an interest in UFO"s and NWO stuff and was sprung having a peek into airforce UFO files. He was surgically removed from the sky one night when flying a cessna across Bass Straight. I agree Mike, it"s a dangerous subject. :"(