Wavers

[bones]

Thanks again Allan,Fred.Fred email on its way to you about this, if it dont turn up let me know please.Allan phone be ringing soon

[NiqueNaque]

Bonesmeister,I don"t know if you"ve been on a construction site lately but; every time we start a projuect we are supposed to do a JRA, or "Job Risk Assessment".It is a document which you "fill in the blanks" on and basically contains a list of everything that you think can go wrong or will go wrong and what to do to mitigate the "risk" of it occuring.One example of which is screwing down roof sheeting for a roof plumber. One of the risks is dragging an extension lead over the edge of the metal sheet and livening up the roof with 240 volts A/C. How do you counteract this? 1. Don"t drag the lead over the edge - use a sheath or batten on the edge - what if that fails - install an RCD on the power lead - what if that fails - use a fibreglass ladder to get onto the roof so you can"t form a current path with a metal ladder, another is to earth off the roof but that is a bit hard if you haven"t put it on yet... you can build a list as long as your arm on the one article called "using an extension lead on a metal roof.. the penultimate answer is "use a battery drill".If you have a look at your flying you can merely build up a JRA for flying by noting [on paper] what you do and why you do it and what checks you perform to make sure it has happened, eg, meteorlogical checks, preflight checks, start up checks, apron checks, rotor pre rotation checks, taxi checks, radio calls and checks, back tracking checks, piano key checks, rolling for take off checks, NOTAM checks, in flight checks, turning checks, landing checks, check,

[asra]

Good post, Nick.You are on the right track. The secret is the form for the JRA. Needs to be ticked off by qualified person, or you are "in the boat" of having to prove the form was sufficient. A qualified risk manager, or OH&S expert would have put his squiggle on the JRA form "format" (in your instance). That effectively shifts the risk from you to him. CheersFred

[birdy]

this is the biggest load of s%$# iv ever heard of. but unfortunatly your rite, Youv got to hold every poor basterds hand all day every day, wether he likes it or not, coz thats the frign law. Wot a w@nk. 90% of employiees would be insulted by this mollycottling crap i recon.The ruels are simple ere, if your brain dont work, you dont get a job.The best safty device in the world is that grey mush between your ears, if its turned on, your safe, if it dont work or is turned off, your go"n to get hurt no matter wot precautions your employer takes. Your an accident lookn for a place to happen.

[asra]

100% correct, David. But its only a problem if your farms in your own name. If ya don"t own anything, no-one will sue. Their brief makes sure that you"ve got enough to at least pay his bill before he puts pen to paper. Then they"ll sue you to the point where you"ve got nothing left.When I was learning to fly, there was a bloke started at the same time who used to have cancer, but was cured. While he was learning, the cancer came back. Reckons the gyro made his cancer "flare up". (have you ever heard such dribble?). There was a bit of a panic by the instructor. But fortunately, the bloke died before anything could come of it. ;DCheers Fred

[bones]

The ruels are simple ere, if your brain dont work, you dont get a job.Hmmm still trying to work out how i managed to to be fed for so long then

[birdy]

But its only a problem if your farms in your own name. Thats why i dont employ anyone Fred, you never know wot sort of voltures go"n to turn up. >[i]Hmmm still trying to work out how i managed to to be fed for so long then

[asra]

Thats why i dont employ anyone Fred, you never know wot sort of voltures go"n to turn up. >Yer got the theory exactly, David. Its not the bloke yer gotta worry about. Its the widder or mother who gets in the clutches of the lawyer.

[MechFx]

Some people need to be protected from themselves.whether they deserve it or not is another question.When I did my apprenticeship with BHP at the Port Kembla Steelworks, one of my tasks was to help the "older" tradesman to fill out their accident reports.My favourite was for a 6ft 4" boilermaker that cut his head open on a low headroom warning sign...I thought it was very funny at the time....Art

[Des Garvin]

Art, You one of those short arses

[MechFx]

5"9 1/2" and proud....

[Des Garvin]

Art, Just a tad longer than short at 5"9 1/2" mate

[asra]

I do think these days with sue happy b@steds every where with the world owes me a living attitude we should try to protect ourselves somewhat .A waver for passengers flying put together by asra to protect instructors combined with "professional

[asra]

Crikey Butch. The time on that last post of 3.19am. You have trouble sleepin?