Flying Quiz Question

[birdy]

Ross, are you ask'n wot the law says or how close you 'can'??[coz theres a big difference.]Ignorance is bliss............but only till you realise you were.You can always get the answer you want, if you ask enough experts.

[asra]

BirdyFrom a legal perspective.Ted we have an ops manual ..http://www.asra.org.au/documents/029...ISSUE%204.pdf( to all of you who fly a gyro, I hope this is no surprise)its worth a read.Ted, it's your turn to come up with a questionRoss B

[asra]

I know! I know! Ops Manual Section 4.01 14. NO SMOKING or NAKED FLAMES are permitted within 15 metres of any aircraft or aircraft refuelling point.And in Flight Rules and Procedures for Gyroplane Pilots - FUELLING OF AIRCRAFT. During fuelling operations, .......... A person shall not smoke or use a naked flame within 15 metres (50 ft) of the aircraft or ground fuelling equipment.What is the prize?Ted, I thought Gyroplanes were aircraft. You seem to be inferring they aren't? Maybe I misunderstood.LlewellaYou shouldn't push your luck. Play it safe and move the ladder..

[asra]

BTW - in case you don't know what Flight Rules & Procedures for Gyroplanes is - it was included in the folder when you received your new Ops Manual. It is printed on grey paper.LlewellaYou shouldn't push your luck. Play it safe and move the ladder..

[asra]

Yes Ted, your fixed wing instructor gave you good advice.I'm not sure how effective the eye exercises you mention would be, but it does make sense, as Presbyopia [ vision changes where the range of visual accomodation deteriorates ] involves stiffening of the lens so that the muscle involved in accomodation can't move it through the full range. Your exercises may well help.This is John's post, not mine!!

[asra]

Welly, I was quoting from my VFR guide and it's not too often they refer to gyro's. I wasn't sure if we are included in the same group.I have in front of me a BAK and and constitution. can't remember seeing a ops manual. However I'll have to turn the office upside down to check.Ross, hmmm..... give me a day or so to think up something and I'll give it a go.Ted.

[asra]

Ted, Ops Manual was posted to you on about 17th Feb 2005.LlewellaYou shouldn't push your luck. Play it safe and move the ladder..

[asra]

Ross, Here's a quickie.The organisers of a airshow in their infinate wisdom chose you as the pilot to demonstrate the gyro . During the preflight conference you were issued with the following weather brief and advised your take off time is 0930Z and a flight period of 45 mins is expected byt he organisers. Payment of $2,500 is offerred for your services.What does it mean (describe forecast fully), where are you, and would you fly knowing that CASA reps will be in the audience?TAF YMMB 290650Z 0820 15004KT CAVOK FM14 00000KT 3000 HAZE PROB40 1720 0400FOG T 14 15 17 14 Q 1016 1014 1013 1014Ted

[asra]

TedHmmmmmmmmmmmmmm ( you ask a tough question Ted, you have a GA background don't you?I think the audience will require night vision equipment. Last Light 0742Z at this time of year. In Mid summer still can't get back on the ground 10 mins before last light.http://www.airservices.gov.au/brief/...aspInsurance?? $2500... we can't accept payment for our services Permission: Yes we have of form for that.... http://www.asra.org.au/documents/050...ISSUE%204.pdf( Moorabbin YMMB)To work out the TAF try http://www.bom.gov.au/general/reg/av...lUser:bomw0007 Password:aviationRoss B

[asra]

Ross, Does this amount to a form of "cheating". Hang on and I'll check the rule book. Yep no outside assistance allowed. So in an effort to appease the forum members you may re sit the question. What did the TAF indicate to you?You are correct re the timing, and the payment issue, however I'm awaiting the TAF component before giving you a pass mark.Ted

[asra]

Come on guys, don't make Ross do all the work here. The TAF was for Morrabin (YMMB), issued at 0650Z on the 29th of the current month (290650Z).The TAF is valid from 0800Z to 2000Z,(0820).The surface wind is forecast to be 150 degrees True at 04 knots (15004kt)The weather is clear(Cavok).The current conditions are expected to change from 1400Z (FM14) for the remainder of the period, with the wind dropping to calm (00000kts) with visibility reducing to 3000 mtrs in haze (3000 HAZE).There's a 40% probability (PROB40)of fog with visibility reducing to 400 mtrs between 1700 and 2000Z (1720 0400FOG.The temperatures (T) and QNH (Q) at three hourly intervals are as follows:0800Z, 14 degrees C, 1016hPa1100Z, 15 degrees C, 1014hPa1400Z, 17 degrees C, 1013hPa1700Z, 14 degrees C, 1014hPaTed

[NiqueNaque]

The TAF was for Morrabin (YMMB), issued at 0650Z on the 29th of the current month (290650Z).Ted,Shouldn't it be 290605Z?Nick.

[asra]

Nick,Not on this occassion as the 29 represents the day of issue and the 0650 represents the time of issue.Ted

[asra]

Okay next question,You decide to fly from Point A to Point B a distance of 60 miles. At the 38 mile mark you realise you are 5 miles left of track.What is your approximate track error in degrees ( to the nearest whole number)?a) 6 b) 7c) 8d) 9If your intended track was 95 degrees (True), what should your approximate corrected heading be arrive at Point B (round up the next whole number)?a) 96b) 101c) 98d) 104To earn the "Nav Title" please describe how you arrived at the answersTed

[NiqueNaque]

Ted,The 1 in 60 rule works here, 5 miles out at 38 is near enough 5 out at 40, or 2/3 of 60, so the track error might be near to 3/2 * 5 or 7.5 degrees off track, because it was 38 and not 40, I'd go with 7 degrees.If you've been flying straight and you are tracking so that you are 5 miles left of where you should be and you have 22 miles left to go, then your course should be 95 plus your corrected heading, since 22 is near to 1/3 of 60, the correction is for 3 x 5 or 15 miles out at 60, your new track must compensate for drift, but since you only have half the distance to go, there is only half the track error left to correct, this means it is the track error plus a half, or near 10 miles at 60, or 10 degrees, which means steer 104 in my book.Hope this helps,Nick.